Qobuz v Tidal

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Qobuz v Tidal

Postby Hifihelp » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:21 pm

Can anyone advise if there any discernible differences in sound quality on cyrus streamers between tidal and qobuz, also the downloadable hi res qobuz stuff. Or is it for cd streamed quality between services, much of a muchness.

I don’t think I’ll get my unit upgraded from tidal as I think tidal and qobuz are probably very similar, and the sublime package puts me off paying up front.

Thanks for any help.

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Re: Qobuz v Tidal

Postby callen24 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:39 pm

i have both.
i can stream my qobuz purchases without having a subscription.
i'd suggest you get the upgraded firmware because it has a clearer look in cadence, when looking at track details etc
And on ipad i've had fewer crashes, there were not many before - but a bit more stable

EDIT
with 16/24 can't tell difference. but do you find tidal can vary, perhaps to do with original master?
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Re: Qobuz v Tidal

Postby Hifihelp » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:08 pm

does It sound different?

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Re: Qobuz v Tidal

Postby broowin » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:08 pm

I switched from Cyrus a few months ago but use tidal and Quboz I don't think there is a difference between the two services
(there is clearly a difference between higher quality ie 24 bit and CD equivalent on brother service so worth paying the xtra)
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Re: Qobuz v Tidal

Postby LVitalis » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:59 pm

I just ended my Tidal subscription, because Cyrus cannot convert their hi rez MQA format.
I had my stream x2 upgraded, cost me nothing and so far it is perfectly stable. Listen for hours, no single drop in data.
Qobuz simply allows to stream in hi rez, of course you have to invest in the one year subscription.
I think it’s worth it, because I put a lot of cd on my iPhone X (256 GB) as well, both in cd quality and hi rez quality. With the Cyrus Soundkey it will play the hi rez files perfectly on my Sennheiser.

If you have cd which are mastered properly (Steely Dan is one of my favorites), it is definitely better than cd quality, although it is not a night and day difference.
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Re: Qobuz v Tidal

Postby Hifihelp » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:32 pm

A dealer told me he had heard that qobuz are going to be offering sublime on a subscription. Don’t know if any truth in same. I’d definetely try it out if I could do that. Not sure if you get a trial on cyrus.

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Re: Qobuz v Tidal

Postby Joe » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:39 pm

LVitalis wrote:I just ended my Tidal subscription, because Cyrus cannot convert their hi rez MQA format.
I had my stream x2 upgraded, cost me nothing and so far it is perfectly stable. Listen for hours, no single drop in data.
Qobuz simply allows to stream in hi rez, of course you have to invest in the one year subscription.
you made the right decision as MQA is lossy DRM that’s only purpose is to sell you hardware.
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Re: Qobuz v Tidal

Postby Hifihelp » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:14 pm

I wonder if qobuz is a one hifi component service or one user service as if it’s the latter, there is surely no reason why people cant share the login? On that score if the downloads for hi res are the same as those that can be streamed from qobuz, this is even better in this sense, as shared users could download hi res music. This said I’m sure qobuz have worked this out.

But I’m sceptical paying for the full ‘subkime’ service only to find limited music in hi res that you like, so it would be a totally blind purchase. It could quite possibly be the biggest waste of money ever as a single person subscription.

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Re: Qobuz v Tidal

Postby LVitalis » Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:38 pm

Joe, thanks for the comment, that’s a relief!

Hifihelp: so far I have added 45 hir res cds on my favorites files, so for me there is enough hi res on Qobuz. I guess it depends on your taste of music, so far it fits mine very well and I have no regret to have bought the subscription.
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