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Upgrade advice

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:22 am
by frazzle
So I have a Cyrus 8a with a PSXR driving B&W CM8 S2 speakers. The source is a Cambridge np30 streamer running either flac files from a Nas but more increasingly just streaming from Spotify.

I'm wondering what the next best upgrade would be. I could send either the amp or the power supply to Cyrus to upgrade them to an 8dac or a psxr2, or I could replace the streamer - which does seem the most expensive route.

Any advice on what may be the biggest bang for buck?

Re: Upgrade advice

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:45 am
by zippy
I still have my old NP30, which I upgraded to a StreamX (only to match the rest of the hifi).
There's very little difference between them in sound quality, and the Cyrus is a much bigger 'maintenance' overhead (e.g. having to take back to dealer for firmware updates).

Re: Upgrade advice

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:57 am
by zippy
zippy wrote:I still have my old NP30, which I upgraded to a StreamX (only to match the rest of the hifi).
There's very little difference between them in sound quality, and the Cyrus is a much bigger 'maintenance' overhead (e.g. having to take back to dealer for firmware updates).


By the way, I suggest don't ever use the NP30 option to allow it to act also as volume control - I found that really killed the sound and much better to have a separate PRE, and even better a DAC/PRE.

Re: Upgrade advice

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:05 am
by frazzle
zippy wrote:
zippy wrote:I still have my old NP30, which I upgraded to a StreamX (only to match the rest of the hifi).
There's very little difference between them in sound quality, and the Cyrus is a much bigger 'maintenance' overhead (e.g. having to take back to dealer for firmware updates).


By the way, I suggest don't ever use the NP30 option to allow it to act also as volume control - I found that really killed the sound and much better to have a separate PRE, and even better a DAC/PRE.


Thanks. I think that's where I'm unsure - where best to invest next. Do I upgrade the 8a to include the dac? Do I buy a separate dac and keep the np30 as a source? No idea really, probably because I don't understand enough about dacs. Or do I add add power or pre amp - I'm not even sure if I can!

Re: Upgrade advice

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:01 pm
by mickbald
Definitely no the psxr2 upgrade. it makes a slight difference but only on top end gear IMO. The psxr is perfectly adequate.

Re: Upgrade advice

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:39 pm
by zippy
mickbald wrote:Definitely no the psxr2 upgrade. it makes a slight difference but only on top end gear IMO. The psxr is perfectly adequate.


I agree with that.

Re: Upgrade advice

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:28 pm
by hifinutt
always good to upgrade the amp , those b&w are lovely . you could stay with cyrus and go pre power or change to a beautiful integrated of which there are so many

of course the rotel 1572 and 1592are an absolute beauty and they match B&w nicely . very good reviews

vincent make some superb amplifiers at real world money and you can try them at home

this one well worth a try . both of these may outdo the 8a i think

https://www.vincent-tac.de/en/product-l ... 237mk.html

Re: Upgrade advice

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:42 pm
by BB Wan
Totally agree with the others, the PSX-R upgrade will probably yield the least improvement (in this context). Also, not sure that the 82DAC upgrade from the 8a (which is already a cracking little amp) is where I'd spend my money (£595 nowadays). Think I'd look to add a nice Chord DAC from the Qute range (s/h or exdem), to improve the NP30.
Then you can start thinking about changing to a Pre/Power combo to get some extra power/current up those fantastic CM8s, I found they liked it.