Unhappy return to vinyl

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Unhappy return to vinyl

Postby johnandvirginia » Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:06 am

Always regretted selling my Manticore Mantra some years ago. The good news was that I did not sell my vinyl. I thought I would dip my toes into record playing again so have bought a relatively cheap deck - an Audio-Technica AT-LP3 with built-in phono amp. The results so far are really poor! The sound is really muffled
and the bass is really exaggerated. I have tried connecting the turntable to my Bel Canto pre-amp and through my Sonos Connect but it sounds awful whichever I choose. Any ideas apart from shooting myself?!!

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Re: Unhappy return to vinyl

Postby callen24 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:20 am

good though the LP3 is I think you have gone in too low.
if you can't take it back, or consider selling it on I suspect a cheap 2nd hand phono stage and better cartridge will improve the sound a lot, but maybe not enough for your ears.
Maybe a cuer can lend you a spare phono stage to see how much difference it makes?
what cartridge does it have?
Vinyl is great but it seems you have to spend quite a lot of money to get to the standard we are used to through streamers

did you look at this fettled LP5 as an alternative?
http://www.theaudiofiles.co.uk/turntables.html
maybe contact them to see if they can help, they may take your LP3

i had a project debut with inbuilt phono amp with orfton 2m red, sold it for £150, so bargains around. i suspect it's internal phono stage was much better than the audio technica
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Re: Unhappy return to vinyl

Postby crimsondonkey » Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:49 am

Take it back if you can - as Chris says you've gone in too low.

If you have a budget in mind that you're comfortable with it should be possible to spec you something competitive sound wise.

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Re: Unhappy return to vinyl

Postby johnandvirginia » Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:10 pm

Many thanks for replies, gents. Bought from John Lewis - so going back tomorrow - no problems. Will spend a bit more time researching a better deck and phono stage. Thanks again. John.

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Re: Unhappy return to vinyl

Postby johnandvirginia » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:56 pm

Recommendations for a turntable which would suit my system with a budget of around £500 not including a phono stage would be most welcome.

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Re: Unhappy return to vinyl

Postby crimsondonkey » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:09 pm

New or would you consider well looked after second hand items?

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Re: Unhappy return to vinyl

Postby johnandvirginia » Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:30 pm

Every other item is pre-owned so, yes, I'd be happy to go that way.

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Re: Unhappy return to vinyl

Postby crimsondonkey » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:49 am

Shame this has already gone, would have been ideal.

http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/showthread.php?t=203592

Oh and whatever you do, don't listen to anyone who suggests an LP12 :)

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Re: Unhappy return to vinyl

Postby blitzpear » Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:14 pm

Second hand, a rega rp3 or p3 should come in your budget (possibly even an rp6 if you are lucky).

I' ve owned a few rega models over the years & have always found them fabulous decks with sound quality that far exceeds their price tag !

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Re: Unhappy return to vinyl

Postby crimsondonkey » Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:17 am

Lots of choice in your price range and if you're patient and lucky you could snag a cheap Garrard 401, Thorens 125 or Technics 1210 etc. I really like the Clearaudio Concept TT, but having just spotted it I think you should contact Kipper immediately and do a deal on this lovely TT he has -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-Ject-The-Classic-Turntable-Walnut-/182641702956?hash=item2a864b382c:g:r1oAAOSwXXxZU6gE

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Re: Unhappy return to vinyl

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Re: Unhappy return to vinyl

Postby callen24 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:23 pm

crimsondonkey wrote:Lots of choice in your price range and if you're patient and lucky you could snag a cheap Garrard 401, Thorens 125 or Technics 1210 etc. I really like the Clearaudio Concept TT, but having just spotted it I think you should contact Kipper immediately and do a deal on this lovely TT he has -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-Ject-The-Classic-Turntable-Walnut-/182641702956?hash=item2a864b382c:g:r1oAAOSwXXxZU6gE

i nearly suggested this on friday
cyrus stream X2, CDi, Oppo HA-1SE, IMFs, mfa Baby classicV2, NORD OneUP, VA Beethoven Baby Grand
ML binarystar digital, DenchXLR, RFCneptune RCA, VanDamme OFC spk cable. AG 500 ac regenerator and Townsend Seismic sink stand.
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Re: Unhappy return to vinyl

Postby johnandvirginia » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:00 am

Took your advice and contacted Kipper. I am now awaiting delivery of a Rega P3 + exact and a Lehmann Black Cube phono stage. Will post my reactions as soon as all set up. Thanks again to all for your advice. John.